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TMOS Classic: August 16, 2025

Mike O'Meara, Robb Spewak, Josh Sroka

August 15, 2025 · 28 min

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[SPEAKER_09]: Michael Mera, Radio Entertainment.

[SPEAKER_06]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_06]: I'd love to see how she's doing.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's wonderful to have the progeny.

[SPEAKER_05]: I can't believe she got up this early in the morning to come in.

[SPEAKER_05]: I got a very straight face emoji when I said her.

[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, no, I said we're leaving in seven thirty and there is your beautiful beautiful daughter.

[SPEAKER_06]: It is so nice to see you Julia.

[SPEAKER_06]: How are you?

[SPEAKER_12]: I'm good.

[SPEAKER_12]: You guys, you guys interrupted my knitting, but it's okay.

[SPEAKER_06]: Are you really knitting?

[SPEAKER_06]: Are you really knitting something?

[SPEAKER_12]: I was crocheting earlier.

[SPEAKER_12]: I was making a hat, but then I ran of yarn.

[SPEAKER_12]: So now I'm moving back on the knitting.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's constant creativity from you.

[SPEAKER_06]: We're very fair.

[SPEAKER_06]: This is your class though, right?

[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, my knitting is for a class.

[SPEAKER_12]: My crocheting is for passion.

[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, really?

[SPEAKER_06]: So knitting in you're in a graphic design program at BCU, correct?

[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, that's a long story.

[SPEAKER_06]: I would, you know, just for all the tuition payers out there, I'm kind of curious, you know, oh, what's she going to undergrad for knitting?

[SPEAKER_06]: What?

[SPEAKER_12]: I'm going with yarn now.

[SPEAKER_06]: So that is your medium.

[SPEAKER_06]: Is that your medium that you're working on?

[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god, yarn.

[SPEAKER_12]: For the most part, sometimes fabric.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, you've really, also you're still at a point where they're making you do everything, right?

[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I did.

[SPEAKER_12]: I think my least favorite thing was spinning my own wool to make my own yarn.

[SPEAKER_12]: I could not get that.

[SPEAKER_08]: Sustainability.

[SPEAKER_12]: I kept thinking about, I mean, when the wool's already spun and knitted, I don't mind it.

[SPEAKER_12]: But then thinking about it in the big pile and making it myself, I feel closer to the animal.

[SPEAKER_12]: I don't really like that.

[SPEAKER_06]: Let me ask you about this so you are that this is what I know and then you can correct me on everything I've got wrong.

[SPEAKER_06]: So I think of you as early

[SPEAKER_06]: and you've been doing this for a long time as very artistic and you're in.

[SPEAKER_06]: I remember you doing graphic design now it sounds to me like you've made and my daughter's made a few pivots when from what she started working and where she is working now.

[SPEAKER_06]: Are you leaning more towards just becoming

[SPEAKER_06]: an artist as opposed to working in graphic design where you're going to have you know your medium because that sounds to me like something I would see in an art gallery working with different mediums is that accurate or is that inaccurate that is actually a good question because I'm figuring that out myself I'm a graphic design major with a crafts minor and I'm looking to do glass blowing next semester

[SPEAKER_12]: um our graphic design program is so open to where if you can justify it you can work with just about everything I know my friend last semester did this really cool like carving out of a wood block and then was able to make all these like super old timey looking prints and that was her like her final thesis and everybody's doing all these crazy things and basically if you can justify it you can do it so if she's done for example like she built a swing

[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I built a swing set.

[SPEAKER_05]: She, I mean, designed it and built the whole thing.

[SPEAKER_05]: She made a dress out of Beanie Babies, which was pretty cool.

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, she's gone in every direction.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I do love the fact that the program at least has her dip or toe in every sort of media.

[SPEAKER_06]: So could she, could you, Julia, could you make the pivot if you got out of school?

[SPEAKER_06]: Could you see yourself making the pivot to do just about whatever struck your fancy in the art world or

[SPEAKER_06]: are you thinking about, you know, working in the business community and advertising and stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_06]: What are you to yourself going?

[SPEAKER_12]: I'm going to pass that.

[SPEAKER_12]: I work at a print shop right now and I think the most exciting thing for me right now just because I'm so into all the different mediums is having people who are like,

[SPEAKER_12]: unfamiliar with the department coming in and asking or like giving me their idea and me being able to like advise them and be like oh well you could do this or this or this with the and like giving them all the options.

[SPEAKER_12]: So I think I'm like I like more of the production side of things for graphic design.

[SPEAKER_09]: Michael Mera, Radio Entertainment. [SPEAKER_06]: Sure. [SPEAKER_06]: I'd love to see how she's doing. [SPEAKER_06]: It's wonderful to have the progeny. [SPEAKER_05]: I can't believe she got up this early in the morning to come in. [SPEAKER_05]: I got a very straight face emoji when I said her. [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, no, I said we're leaving in seven thirty and there is your beautiful beautiful daughter. [SPEAKER_06]: It is so nice to see you Julia. [SPEAKER_06]: How are you? [SPEAKER_12]: I'm good. [SPEAKER_12]: You guys, you guys interrupted my knitting, but it's okay. [SPEAKER_06]: Are you really knitting? [SPEAKER_06]: Are you really knitting something? [SPEAKER_12]: I was crocheting earlier. [SPEAKER_12]: I was making a hat, but then I ran of yarn. [SPEAKER_12]: So now I'm moving back on the knitting. [SPEAKER_06]: It's constant creativity from you. [SPEAKER_06]: We're very fair. [SPEAKER_06]: This is your class though, right? [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, my knitting is for a class. [SPEAKER_12]: My crocheting is for passion. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, really? [SPEAKER_06]: So knitting in you're in a graphic design program at BCU, correct? [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, that's a long story. [SPEAKER_06]: I would, you know, just for all the tuition payers out there, I'm kind of curious, you know, oh, what's she going to undergrad for knitting? [SPEAKER_06]: What? [SPEAKER_12]: I'm going with yarn now. [SPEAKER_06]: So that is your medium. [SPEAKER_06]: Is that your medium that you're working on? [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god, yarn. [SPEAKER_12]: For the most part, sometimes fabric. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you've really, also you're still at a point where they're making you do everything, right? [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I did. [SPEAKER_12]: I think my least favorite thing was spinning my own wool to make my own yarn. [SPEAKER_12]: I could not get that. [SPEAKER_08]: Sustainability. [SPEAKER_12]: I kept thinking about, I mean, when the wool's already spun and knitted, I don't mind it. [SPEAKER_12]: But then thinking about it in the big pile and making it myself, I feel closer to the animal. [SPEAKER_12]: I don't really like that. [SPEAKER_06]: Let me ask you about this so you are that this is what I know and then you can correct me on everything I've got wrong. [SPEAKER_06]: So I think of you as early [SPEAKER_06]: and you've been doing this for a long time as very artistic and you're in. [SPEAKER_06]: I remember you doing graphic design now it sounds to me like you've made and my daughter's made a few pivots when from what she started working and where she is working now. [SPEAKER_06]: Are you leaning more towards just becoming [SPEAKER_06]: an artist as opposed to working in graphic design where you're going to have you know your medium because that sounds to me like something I would see in an art gallery working with different mediums is that accurate or is that inaccurate that is actually a good question because I'm figuring that out myself I'm a graphic design major with a crafts minor and I'm looking to do glass blowing next semester [SPEAKER_12]: um our graphic design program is so open to where if you can justify it you can work with just about everything I know my friend last semester did this really cool like carving out of a wood block and then was able to make all these like super old timey looking prints and that was her like her final thesis and everybody's doing all these crazy things and basically if you can justify it you can do it so if she's done for example like she built a swing [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I built a swing set. [SPEAKER_05]: She, I mean, designed it and built the whole thing. [SPEAKER_05]: She made a dress out of Beanie Babies, which was pretty cool. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, she's gone in every direction. [SPEAKER_05]: And I do love the fact that the program at least has her dip or toe in every sort of media. [SPEAKER_06]: So could she, could you, Julia, could you make the pivot if you got out of school? [SPEAKER_06]: Could you see yourself making the pivot to do just about whatever struck your fancy in the art world or [SPEAKER_06]: are you thinking about, you know, working in the business community and advertising and stuff like that. [SPEAKER_06]: What are you to yourself going? [SPEAKER_12]: I'm going to pass that. [SPEAKER_12]: I work at a print shop right now and I think the most exciting thing for me right now just because I'm so into all the different mediums is having people who are like, [SPEAKER_12]: unfamiliar with the department coming in and asking or like giving me their idea and me being able to like advise them and be like oh well you could do this or this or this with the and like giving them all the options. [SPEAKER_12]: So I think I'm like I like more of the production side of things for graphic design. [SPEAKER_12]: I don't really like sitting in front of my computer much anymore especially after doing that all last [SPEAKER_06]: You want to create art. [SPEAKER_06]: You want to be hands on and do stuff like that. [SPEAKER_05]: So if you're printing activity, those are like classic old printing technologies too, right? [SPEAKER_05]: They've existed the same a hundred years ago. [SPEAKER_05]: They do now. [SPEAKER_05]: So I love the fact that it's at real physical medium. [SPEAKER_05]: And like she said, because of COVID, she spent eighteen months. [SPEAKER_05]: doing stuff virtually on a computer, which is a great skill to have, but it is so nice to see her actually create, I love to watch her name. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, she's been doing that forever. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: She's been doing that for a very, very long time. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: That sounds cool. [SPEAKER_06]: And it sounds like you're able to, in this program, expand your horizons and, you know, go in a direction that's inspired. [SPEAKER_06]: And that's not bad because it's all under that same umbrella. [SPEAKER_06]: You're creating. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: That's, that's really. [SPEAKER_06]: And you like still like the program, you're enjoying yourself. [SPEAKER_12]: the program, but who knows what I'll be doing next year. [SPEAKER_06]: That's cool. [SPEAKER_06]: I like that. [SPEAKER_12]: I have two cats named Aussie and Noki and Noki has three legs, which is a new development. [SPEAKER_06]: Like he had to have one. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I cat that good. [SPEAKER_05]: Mike, you don't eat all at once. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, we're just gonna fry this up right now. [SPEAKER_06]: That's so nasty. [SPEAKER_12]: She had her toe got really big out of nowhere and we were like, oh, her toe's big. [SPEAKER_12]: This is so funny. [SPEAKER_12]: And then we took her to the top. [SPEAKER_12]: Same thing that happened to your dad. [SPEAKER_05]: This is my cat, type B. [SPEAKER_12]: No idea what actually happened with her, but she was... Can you hear anyone say? [SPEAKER_12]: Hey, one say. [SPEAKER_12]: Come on over here. [SPEAKER_06]: All right, before we let you go, I want to ask you about this. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, as far as an enrob feel free, this is your family. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: Shut me down if you wish to. [SPEAKER_06]: All right. [SPEAKER_06]: Some advice for the Frat boy. [SPEAKER_06]: Your brother. [SPEAKER_06]: Your brother who is, you know, who is that we discussed him briefly yesterday. [SPEAKER_06]: He's probably still asleep as we take this program. [SPEAKER_06]: That you're asking is. [SPEAKER_06]: You bet your ass he is, you know, we want to make sure that he does well. [SPEAKER_06]: He's pledging this fraternity seems to be his big thing. [SPEAKER_06]: What advice would you give your brother at this particular juncture as he navigates his way through the college situation? [SPEAKER_05]: because you've been a great college student. [SPEAKER_05]: You really have. [SPEAKER_06]: So you kind of hit the ground running. [SPEAKER_06]: I remember that. [SPEAKER_06]: You kind of hit the ground running. [SPEAKER_06]: And you know, Rob was talking about how he made it through the first, you know, semester. [SPEAKER_06]: But it's getting him his teeth. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we'll see. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, he's the finals. [SPEAKER_05]: We still have to do that. [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm sure we'll find. [SPEAKER_05]: No, he's got finals. [SPEAKER_05]: Sure. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: All right. [SPEAKER_06]: All right. [SPEAKER_06]: All right. [SPEAKER_12]: For the most part, but I think my only advice for him right now is to take his car to get a state inspection that's four months overdue. [SPEAKER_12]: So I don't have to keep driving him to see all his stupid brothers. [SPEAKER_06]: I agree with Julia. [SPEAKER_06]: Rob, I agree. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm with it. [SPEAKER_12]: That's very interesting for him, too. [SPEAKER_12]: So maybe if he could just do that. [SPEAKER_12]: I like that. [SPEAKER_06]: First lesson that he hasn't gotten this done is just what? [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I just has it. [SPEAKER_12]: Every time I'm in town, my mom says, well, can you go drop Robert's car off? [SPEAKER_12]: I'm like, no. [SPEAKER_12]: Because it's Robert's car. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: I'm not doing that. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, right. [SPEAKER_12]: I'm telling you that the reason it's not done is because of me, but I see it otherwise. [SPEAKER_05]: I think it might happen in the next day or so. [SPEAKER_05]: Who? [SPEAKER_06]: I'm Ron Burgundy. [SPEAKER_02]: I'll say. [SPEAKER_06]: Julia, is there anybody you want to say hi to out there that might be in podcast land or you know, or you just have to be here. [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_05]: Say hi to him. [SPEAKER_05]: Go ahead. [SPEAKER_05]: You can play it for him. [SPEAKER_05]: Henry. [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, no, he wouldn't listen to this. [SPEAKER_05]: I'll make him listen. [SPEAKER_12]: I'm doing my boyfriend out of this. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_12]: I said hi to Shisha and Grandpa Bob. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that's very, very easy. [SPEAKER_06]: And you like Henry a lot. [SPEAKER_06]: Is Henry, is Henry the one? [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And we got that. [SPEAKER_05]: That's enough. [SPEAKER_05]: I'll take that. [SPEAKER_05]: Henry will actually be coming to our house for Thanksgiving. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, this is the first you've met Henry, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, my God. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: I like Henry a lot. [SPEAKER_06]: Very good. [SPEAKER_06]: I like that name. [SPEAKER_06]: Henry. [SPEAKER_06]: It's a good name. [SPEAKER_06]: George Carlom would like that name. [SPEAKER_06]: Henry. [SPEAKER_06]: Henry. [SPEAKER_06]: He was given the other call. [SPEAKER_06]: Does anybody ever call him Hank? [SPEAKER_12]: Nope. [SPEAKER_12]: Only my dad. [SPEAKER_12]: I think you're right. [SPEAKER_06]: There you go. [SPEAKER_06]: You're dead and I think a lot. [SPEAKER_06]: We have to take a break. [SPEAKER_06]: I love you Julia. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you so much for coming in and we will take a break and come back. [SPEAKER_10]: With more fun and more throws in the mega manager. [SPEAKER_10]: The Halloween program is brought to you in Living Color on NBC. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm a Hollywood. [SPEAKER_09]: Not tonight, Joe, starring Johnny Carson. [SPEAKER_09]: This is Ed McMan, along with Doc Severance and a NBC Orchestra. [SPEAKER_09]: And now ladies and gentlemen, he... Johnny. [SPEAKER_10]: What are you doing to think, David? [SPEAKER_10]: Well, we're working. [SPEAKER_10]: We're doing a show to question them arm. [SPEAKER_04]: I was going to ask you if you got your turkey yet. [SPEAKER_04]: Sure. [SPEAKER_04]: It was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, [SPEAKER_04]: I thought

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