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#3716: Weasles Get Measles.

Mike O'Meara, Robb Spewak, Josh Sroka

September 30, 2026 · 1 hr 21 min

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The show opens with an honest conversation about suicide prevention as therapist Cynthia Catchings joins Mike, Robb, and Josh to discuss recognizing distress, supporting loved ones, and keeping communication open with kids. Mike shares a difficult chapter from his own life before the boys shift gears to his supposedly calmer approach to the Red Sox—and a baseball-practice scheduling fiasco that proves his patience still has limits. A congressional “gotcha” falls apart over the difference between the Hawks and the Hawkeyes, while a heated discussion of measles and vaccines produces a very questionable mob motto: “Weasles Get Measles.” Plus, notification overload, Wolfman Jack memories, Fat Bear Week, and a Charlie Callas classic that sends everybody out laughing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Michael Mery, radio entertainment.

[SPEAKER_04]: You can listen to the Michael Meryl Show at TMOs.com or anywhere find podcasts or fun.

[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to our show.

[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to start with the race.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's got to be fucking look at our phone.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's money for everyone.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's the Michael Meryl Show with Michael Meryl.

[SPEAKER_04]: Josh Rooka.

[SPEAKER_04]: And Rob Speedway.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's only the beginning.

[SPEAKER_08]: And now here's Mike.

[SPEAKER_08]: Good afternoon, every buddy.

[SPEAKER_08]: Welcome to the Michael Mary's Show for a Wednesday.

[SPEAKER_08]: You might notice that I'm wearing my specs today.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_08]: We got some small print here for our very first guest.

[SPEAKER_08]: We're closing out September and we wanted to get serious for a second because September is National Suicide Prevention Month and I think it's important and we all decided it was important to have a conversation that that's important to everyone and probably in some way or another everybody's been touched by it.

[SPEAKER_08]: Let's welcome Cynthia V. Catching.

[SPEAKER_08]: She is a licensed

[SPEAKER_08]: She's a therapist, she is an educator, she is an author and mental health expert.

[SPEAKER_08]: She has more than 15 years of experience in the field and Cynthia is a long-time therapist and a clinical expert with talk space.

[SPEAKER_08]: She's also the founder and executive director of the Women's Emotional Wellness Center and an adjunct professor of social work.

[SPEAKER_08]: Her work is taken around the world and focuses on everything from depression, anxiety, trauma,

[SPEAKER_08]: family, violence, stress, and helping people through some of the most difficult moments of their lives.

[SPEAKER_08]: I simply thank you so much for coming on the Michael Maris Show today.

[SPEAKER_08]: We truly appreciate you taking the time to talk about this very serious issue.

[SPEAKER_08]: Thank you for coming on.

[SPEAKER_08]: Thank you very much.

[SPEAKER_08]: We'll get right to it because we were setting this up with discussing some of our celebrity deaths that really impacted us and mine was Robin Williams who took his own life and since this is the end of September and September was suicide prevention month we thought it was a good conversation to have you've obviously in your career come across some very, very difficult situations.

[SPEAKER_08]: for the first question I would have is a very it's not a gotcha question but it's a very general question because I would wonder in the realm if you're somebody that's cruising through life and you don't have anybody that you're particularly worried about what uh...

[SPEAKER_08]: What are some of the signs you should look for if somebody that's close to you and you might not have a clue that they're in trouble, but they're in trouble, what's the first thing one would observe?

[SPEAKER_08]: What would you look for?

[SPEAKER_12]: So, it's such an important question that I get asked frequently.

[SPEAKER_12]: Number one, I think it's that changing patterns every time that we have someone close to us that is maybe not wanting to interact as much, not being a social, maybe

[SPEAKER_12]: seeming a little sad or withdrawn.

[SPEAKER_12]: That is the number one thing.

[SPEAKER_12]: Second clue that we see many times is people actually giving away their important belongings or saying I would like to give you this when your reality comes out of nowhere.

[SPEAKER_12]: And number three is actually talking about it because sometimes they're more open.

[SPEAKER_08]: Is there a scenario that you see more often than others?

[SPEAKER_08]: I know it probably varies in different age groups, but is there one type of person that you can spot right away when that person's having some issues that they might be in danger of harming themselves?

[SPEAKER_12]: I would love to have that, to have the ability to find it, but in reality, no.

[SPEAKER_12]: And sometimes this is as sad as it sounds, it can come from children, adolescence adults or older people.

[SPEAKER_12]: And I think that it makes it very difficult sometimes to really see it because some people know what other people are looking for, family members, friends, so they try to hide it.

[SPEAKER_12]: So in reality, we cannot tell each,

[SPEAKER_08]: I was in a situation myself, and I think it's important to be honest about this, and I've never talked about it on this show in my entire career.

[SPEAKER_08]: We've certainly joked about it, but it's going through a divorce, and my second divorce where I had two children, that was a time in my life that I remember.

[SPEAKER_08]: I actually remember, not seriously.

[SPEAKER_08]: But thinking about it, I was like, you know, I am in so much pain right now and I was and I don't I don't talk about it on the show.

[SPEAKER_08]: I was in horrible pain.

[SPEAKER_08]: I wanted my family to stay together.

[SPEAKER_08]: I did.

[SPEAKER_08]: I was the dumping, not the dumpper, and I really, really was in a bad way.

[SPEAKER_08]: This episode of the Michael Mery Show is brought to you by the TMOS Amazon Portal. [SPEAKER_08]: Remember to click the Amazon link at TMOSpodcast.com before you shop. [SPEAKER_08]: It's that easy. [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_08]: Now, on with the show. [SPEAKER_11]: Proved, juicy. [SPEAKER_11]: Hey, how about a nice Hawaiian punch? [SPEAKER_11]: Sure! [SPEAKER_04]: Michael Mery, radio entertainment. [SPEAKER_04]: You can listen to the Michael Meryl Show at TMOs.com or anywhere find podcasts or fun. [SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to our show. [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to start with the race. [SPEAKER_09]: It's got to be fucking look at our phone. [SPEAKER_04]: There's money for everyone. [SPEAKER_04]: It's the Michael Meryl Show with Michael Meryl. [SPEAKER_04]: Josh Rooka. [SPEAKER_04]: And Rob Speedway. [SPEAKER_04]: It's only the beginning. [SPEAKER_08]: And now here's Mike. [SPEAKER_08]: Good afternoon, every buddy. [SPEAKER_08]: Welcome to the Michael Mary's Show for a Wednesday. [SPEAKER_08]: You might notice that I'm wearing my specs today. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes. [SPEAKER_08]: We got some small print here for our very first guest. [SPEAKER_08]: We're closing out September and we wanted to get serious for a second because September is National Suicide Prevention Month and I think it's important and we all decided it was important to have a conversation that that's important to everyone and probably in some way or another everybody's been touched by it. [SPEAKER_08]: Let's welcome Cynthia V. Catching. [SPEAKER_08]: She is a licensed [SPEAKER_08]: She's a therapist, she is an educator, she is an author and mental health expert. [SPEAKER_08]: She has more than 15 years of experience in the field and Cynthia is a long-time therapist and a clinical expert with talk space. [SPEAKER_08]: She's also the founder and executive director of the Women's Emotional Wellness Center and an adjunct professor of social work. [SPEAKER_08]: Her work is taken around the world and focuses on everything from depression, anxiety, trauma, [SPEAKER_08]: family, violence, stress, and helping people through some of the most difficult moments of their lives. [SPEAKER_08]: I simply thank you so much for coming on the Michael Maris Show today. [SPEAKER_08]: We truly appreciate you taking the time to talk about this very serious issue. [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you for coming on. [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you very much. [SPEAKER_08]: We'll get right to it because we were setting this up with discussing some of our celebrity deaths that really impacted us and mine was Robin Williams who took his own life and since this is the end of September and September was suicide prevention month we thought it was a good conversation to have you've obviously in your career come across some very, very difficult situations. [SPEAKER_08]: for the first question I would have is a very it's not a gotcha question but it's a very general question because I would wonder in the realm if you're somebody that's cruising through life and you don't have anybody that you're particularly worried about what uh... [SPEAKER_08]: What are some of the signs you should look for if somebody that's close to you and you might not have a clue that they're in trouble, but they're in trouble, what's the first thing one would observe? [SPEAKER_08]: What would you look for? [SPEAKER_12]: So, it's such an important question that I get asked frequently. [SPEAKER_12]: Number one, I think it's that changing patterns every time that we have someone close to us that is maybe not wanting to interact as much, not being a social, maybe [SPEAKER_12]: seeming a little sad or withdrawn. [SPEAKER_12]: That is the number one thing. [SPEAKER_12]: Second clue that we see many times is people actually giving away their important belongings or saying I would like to give you this when your reality comes out of nowhere. [SPEAKER_12]: And number three is actually talking about it because sometimes they're more open. [SPEAKER_08]: Is there a scenario that you see more often than others? [SPEAKER_08]: I know it probably varies in different age groups, but is there one type of person that you can spot right away when that person's having some issues that they might be in danger of harming themselves? [SPEAKER_12]: I would love to have that, to have the ability to find it, but in reality, no. [SPEAKER_12]: And sometimes this is as sad as it sounds, it can come from children, adolescence adults or older people. [SPEAKER_12]: And I think that it makes it very difficult sometimes to really see it because some people know what other people are looking for, family members, friends, so they try to hide it. [SPEAKER_12]: So in reality, we cannot tell each, [SPEAKER_08]: I was in a situation myself, and I think it's important to be honest about this, and I've never talked about it on this show in my entire career. [SPEAKER_08]: We've certainly joked about it, but it's going through a divorce, and my second divorce where I had two children, that was a time in my life that I remember. [SPEAKER_08]: I actually remember, not seriously. [SPEAKER_08]: But thinking about it, I was like, you know, I am in so much pain right now and I was and I don't I don't talk about it on the show. [SPEAKER_08]: I was in horrible pain. [SPEAKER_08]: I wanted my family to stay together. [SPEAKER_08]: I did. [SPEAKER_08]: I was the dumping, not the dumpper, and I really, really was in a bad way. [SPEAKER_08]: I finally had a little moment when I moved out of my house. [SPEAKER_08]: And I had a moment of, I don't want to call it joy, but happiness when I was able to find a place near them. [SPEAKER_08]: And I remember there's a ceiling fan in my bedroom, which was on the top of this A-frame. [SPEAKER_08]: and actually my mind went into this area about with that, with that sustain, with that hold, the weight of an adult, if you were, it was just, it was really, really dark. [SPEAKER_08]: I was really that desperate. [SPEAKER_08]: And I think in this day and age, you just never know what series of things can go wrong to push a person to, you know, get serious about that thought process that I didn't really pursue at all. [SPEAKER_12]: Right. [SPEAKER_12]: And I'm sorry to hear that because many times in people that we are so close to we cannot really tell that they're going through through something so difficult, but as human beings, I think that all of us at one point or another experience that difficult situation and. [SPEAKER_12]: Sometimes the difference in between like am I going to do it or is a person going to do it? [SPEAKER_12]: I think that being close to other people is what did tapes in your case, I want to think that maybe you're thinking about your children or in other cases, maybe people thinking about their family, but the number one thing is being able to cope with that pain because that pain [SPEAKER_12]: for some people is just get over it or everything will get better and that doesn't work right is when you broke a bone or you cut yourself to an accident and they tell you just deal with it right it hurts it hurts is there's nothing else that you can do so I think that in dealing with depression or with the sense of thinking about suicide we deal with an internal pain that feels as bad and we don't know what to do with it it's not just about [SPEAKER_12]: get over it. [SPEAKER_12]: So thinking about maybe what is keeping the person anchored to this world or to the loved ones that they have helps a lot, but at the same time we never know how much is going to affect the pain, the inability to deal with the different emotions. [SPEAKER_08]: When you say anchored, when you say, keeping that person anchored, how does that manifested itself? [SPEAKER_08]: How does that work? [SPEAKER_12]: Keeping the person anchored, I think that we're talking about either doing it individually with the person itself or by other people being closed. [SPEAKER_12]: So if it is us, maybe sometimes thinking about the possibility we're thinking about, but what if if I do this. [SPEAKER_12]: But I wouldn't like to hurt my parents or I wouldn't like to hurt my my best friend right so I'm feeling that I encourage that keeps me stay staying here a lot of right in other cases when we have other people close to us and they know that we might be thinking about it maybe we don't have a plan and there's not a specific thing that we have shared that we're going to do the other people around us can be those so. [SPEAKER_12]: They're angry or those helping people who can actually say, I'm here for you and I'm not going to leave your loan. [SPEAKER_12]: And that's what that makes a difference. [SPEAKER_06]: I've got a question in Mike. [SPEAKER_06]: I really appreciate you bringing that up because I've had similar thoughts to that myself. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, when you just think what if you never take that next step, but that thought does cross your mind and it is obviously a very, it's a drastic step. [SPEAKER_06]: It's, I mean, there are people that declare bankruptcy and then there are people that fight through, but this is the ultimate declaration of bankruptcy. [SPEAKER_06]: Is it common for people to have that thought to, I mean, just for it to pop in your brain, even if you don't act on it. [SPEAKER_08]: Great. [SPEAKER_08]: I agree with that. [SPEAKER_08]: That's I'd love to hear the answer to that. [SPEAKER_08]: What do you think of that question? [SPEAKER_12]: Absolutely, I agree. [SPEAKER_12]: It is very common. [SPEAKER_12]: I want to say normal because we don't know. [SPEAKER_12]: Normal is different for everybody, right, but very common. [SPEAKER_12]: And we are going to think about it, right, even sometimes. [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, you think about the thought of driving, right, and you think, what if, right, what is so much pain, with that maybe, and then it's like, okay, pay attention and continue driving the best way you can, right? [SPEAKER_12]: same situation can happen to different people. [SPEAKER_12]: People are going to react in different ways, but I think that it is very, very common. [SPEAKER_06]: Wow. [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't realize that. [SPEAKER_06]: And I didn't realize that Mike and I have shared that notion. [SPEAKER_08]: I think I think we would be, I think do you get the impression that people kind of, it's the last thing. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm reading our chat group right now that's like that this is fun, they're making fun of it, this is awful. [SPEAKER_08]: This is a tough [SPEAKER_08]: tough subject to talk about and people don't like to talk about it and I'm seeing that in the comments and it's interesting to me this is we like to bury it in America we like to hide it we like to say oh I don't even want to talk about that. [SPEAKER_06]: It's easier to do that than deal with it really. [SPEAKER_08]: I can understand why but what do you think people are are so passionately [SPEAKER_08]: reticent to discuss this. [SPEAKER_08]: It's said I'm getting this right now and it's in real time. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but but I'm sure you're aware that as well, right? [SPEAKER_12]: Absolutely, and I think that is the fear, right? [SPEAKER_12]: If I talk about it, it can happen. [SPEAKER_12]: If I talk about it, I'm going to maybe attract the idea of it. [SPEAKER_12]: If I think about it, it is going to invite the person to maybe think about it when they hadn't, right? [SPEAKER_12]: So I think that even a therapist or my colleagues, we talk about it, and we say, how did you ask that question? [SPEAKER_12]: Right, at the point when you're dealing maybe with a child or with an adult, how do you bring up the question and making sure that is as careful as we can, but we need to talk about the topic about the subject. [SPEAKER_08]: I want to mention children because that, of course, now, my life is